THIS WEEK'S QUESTION:
The long-discussed issue of improving road transportation across the North Country gets its next airing Jan. 30 in Canton at an information meeting hosted by the state Department of Transportation on their latest effort, the North Country Access Improvements Study.
This latest study, being generated by a Stakeholder Advisory Committee of village, town and county officials, business leaders and transportation professionals, is concentrating on ideas around improving U.S. Rt. 11 between Canton and Potsdam, possibly with bypass features for both villages. For more, visit http://northcountrynow.com/news/canton-meeting-will-update-public-route-....
Do you support a bypass for the North Country? Leave your reasons why or why not in the comments.
Take the NCNow Survey. Results will be posted Jan. 22.
LAST WEEK'S QUESTION:
As the state implements its “Raise the age Legislation,” 16-year-olds will no longer be housed in adult jail facilities. The state is considering St. Lawrence County’s old jail as a potential site to establish a juvenile detention center.
Would you like to see such a facility in St. Lawrence County?
70.5% -- Yes
22.4% -- No
7.1% -- Unsure
Total Responses: 241
Here are your comments:
More taxes to pay for this I suppose. That's all that's left in SLC is prisons and jail. Can't wait to get out of this welfare county.
Jan. 14 12:28 p.m.
I feel it would be constructive to instead of utilizing it as a "Juvenile Detention Center" why not format it as a "Juvenile Treatment Center" with proper expertised staff from psychological to medical. I feel it should be a mandated time period, ordered by the court system depending on the situation and periodically strictly evaluated by the state and adjusted accordingly. Social teaching and confidences need to be instilled in our younger generation that behaviors can change with proper guidances and trusts with people, who are indeed out there, that really care, instead of locking an individual in a 10x10 cell with no value reward. With that concept alone we are still in the social thinkings of debtor prisons, of past, and third world country expectations. Word of note to parents .....why not put the the computer and phones down and use that unconstructive frivilous time being what you signed up for .... a parent!!
Jan. 14 12:23 p.m.
Put Jesus back in our schools – bible, pledge of flag, prayer -- this is all we need to get our kids back doing Christian ways.
Jan. 14 11:53 a.m.
That would be a good choice. If it is illegal for a 16-year-old to be in a "relationship" with adults, then how in the world did we ever let it be they could be in jail with adults?
Jan. 14 6:24 a.m.
Jan. 13 6:42 p.m.
Juvenile detention center? Um . . . still sounds like incarceration with barred jail cells . . . for youth? Badly behaved children from poor families? I'm not convinced this site wouldn't be creating future criminals.
Jan. 13 5:50 p.m.
What 16-year-olds are doing today is not what 16-year-olds were doing 20 years ago. Open your eyes, the 16-year-olds in trouble today are a danger to the public.
Jan. 13 5:20 p.m.
As long as geography is taken into consideration for youngsters from way downstate. I can't see shipping some kid up here from NYC: travel for family would be way too onerous.
Jan. 13 4:17 p.m.
It's beyond [messed] up. Unbelievable even considering something like this. Witch burnings at noon. Be there!
Jan. 13 2:26 p.m.
The money never seems to follow Cuomo's mouth.
Jan. 13 2:06 p.m.
But there must be education on drugs. And not the freedom to do as they please. No cell phone thay must be watched at all times rooms checked see if we can keep them out of prison if not they dont take it with inportion. We must help our kids there our furture.
Jan. 13 11:18 a.m.
More jobs… but not if any cost to county.
Jan. 13 9:04 a.m.
Tax base is too small.
Jan. 13 7:40 a.m.
As long as the state picks up the whole tab, not the residents of this county.
Jan. 13 6:25 a.m.
"Kids" don't belong in a jail that houses adults. In my opinion those 17 and younger should be in a youth detention center.
Jan. 13 1:18 a.m.
It's a good idea, but only if the state pays for it.
Jan. 12 8:32 p.m.
They had one before I remember, the STAR Services to At-Risk Youth program. A few kids got their feelings hurt remember? Then the parents and bleeding hearts complained so they shut it down. Also years ago there was a youth cadet program on Fort Drum. It was a youth boot camp. I was an instructor/Drill SGT there. It got good results and kids learned respect, discipline, teamwork, time management and personal responsibility. Above that pride and self-worth were restored. All this was accomplished in only 6 weeks! Imagine that? Funny thing is never saw a face or a name I recognized in the paper or on the news after those 6 weeks Lol. Then they shut that down as well.
Jan. 12 7:30 p.m.
Do the crime pay your time!
Jan. 12 6:37 p.m.
What I really would like is a rehab center for alcohol and drug addiction. Long stays are needed if there is a chance of recovery.
Jan. 12 3:37 p.m.
Here is an opportunity for increased employment. It would nice to see the state consider a site in SLC.
Jan. 12 11:26 a.m.
I say yes because it will create jobs and utilize abandoned buildings. Not to mention that 16 year children should be looked at as just that, children.
Jan. 12 10:06 a.m.
Jan. 11 8:39 p.m.
Yes as long as the required building updates are totally funded by the state.
Jan. 11 1:48 p.m.
They do not belong in an institution where they are mixed with others of more devious nature. They need to learn skills that enable them to lead a better lifestyle.
Jan. 11 1:43 p.m.
Not at the previous county facility. Not to be located in the residential area where families live and businesses are located. A lot of lead based paint on the walls and much more. If it wasn't good enough for the county inmates why would it be a great place for younger inmates. Please don't waste our money.
Jan. 11 1:05 p.m.
Yes, because 16-year-olds should not be housed in adult jails.
Jan. 11 12:54 p.m.
We cannot afford the NYC prices law enforcement charges. Must be ran by social services no checks or balances in law enforcement.
Jan. 11 12:45 p.m.
It is better to use a building we already have than to put out the expense of a new one.
Jan. 11 12:42 p.m.
However, there was lead in the old jailhouse. That must be taken care of as well as other outdated issues.
Jan. 11 10:40 a.m.
Keep our kids local, though they should concentrate on bringing in more opportunities for our young folks so they don't get into trouble because of boredom, drugs and nothing to do. Need more jobs for these kids.
Jan. 11 7:09 a.m.
Do the crime, do the time.
Jan. 11 7:04 a.m.
Jobs would be created, area youth could stay close to their families to encourage them to not become incarcerated again.
Jan. 10 2:51 p.m.
Yes, NNY badly needs the jobs that would be needed to support such a facility. Given the recent exodus of jobs from Massena, perhaps that area could become a site. The mall will soon be available with plenty of space and parking.
Jan. 10 2:36 p.m.
As long as it is funded by the state not on the shoulders of the county.
Jan. 10 8:34 a.m.
It means more jobs for locals.
Jan. 10 8:30 a.m.
I'm sorry, but if you commit adult crimes, you need to be treated as an adult.
Jan. 10 7:51 a.m.
Why not? Seems an appropriate use. Cost of possible upgrades and running it would be the deciding factor for me.
Jan. 10 6:38 a.m.
The facility has been empty too long. Use it or pull it down.
Jan. 9 11:59 p.m.
It could help some of these kids learn a lesson and better their life.
Jan. 9 8:56 p.m.
Might just as well get some use out of it. Then they can get computers and large screen TV's like the inmates get.
Jan. 9 5:46 p.m.
I thought that building was in such bad shape it can't be good for anything that's why we have a new millions of dollars, new jail. Or was it someone who had a lot of pull just wanted a new jail. Seems like it now that the old jail is suddenly good again.
Jan. 9 4:16 p.m.
We don't allow 21-year-olds to drink because they're not "adult" enough, so why do we prosecute younger people like adults? Makes no sense. I support the legislation and housing it in the old jail. One more building put to use instead of being a drain on SLC taxpayers! Ought to bring a job or 10 to the Canton community too!
Jan. 9 3:21 p.m.
I would support it if the facilities were used for youths committing non-violent crimes.
Jan. 9 2:20 p.m.
We need to have our youth housed closer to home so that they can make positive strides with their familes and the taxpayers would save money that they are paying to house these kids downstate, mileage and travel expenses getting parents and family members down there for visitations, court appearances, and it would create jobs in our area which are desperately needed.
Jan. 9 1:57 p.m.
No. If the county establishes a juvenile detention center, our ineffective public schools will take no time helping to fill them by shepherding kids in distress out of their buildings. At least now, judges are more careful about sending youth to county jail.
Jan. 9 1:28 p.m.
Would like to see more jobs created.
Jan. 9 11:26 a.m.
Jan. 9 11:26 a.m.
Yes more jobs in St. Lawrence County. We need all we can get.
Jan. 9 10:55 a.m.
Yes, though it's sad that we need one.
Jan. 9 10:09 a.m.
No, we don't need to pay taxes for another program or facility. I'm tired of paying to feed and cloth criminals.
Jan. 9 9:55 a.m.
I would like to see 16-year-old that commit serious crimes continue to go to prison. It wasn't that long ago I was 16, I know that is plenty old enough to realize that doing something like murder or rape is unquestionably wrong.
Jan. 9 9:29 a.m.
If they done the crime let them do the time.
Jan. 8 11:24 p.m.
Yes. Might as well have some more jobs here.
Jan. 8 5:51 p.m.
The old jail would be used for a good purpose instead of just rotting away.
Jan. 8 4:21 p.m.
No I am apposed as it as the other institutions that are strung out through the North Country seem to bring in the unwanted charectors as with the "wanted." Low lifes will show up.
Jan. 8 3:57 p.m.
Great idea, it is using a facitlity that is not currently being used.
Jan. 8 3:50 p.m.
Seems like the "old jail" would serve this purpose.
Jan. 8 3:50 p.m.
It should depend on the crime as to the location their housed in... Go Trump.
Jan. 8 3:28 p.m.
While this could be good in the sense of bringing in additional jobs and using wasted space, Sometimes, I truthfully think there are some youth who need tough love and need to see the inside of a real prison system. Perhaps the juvenile facility would be better than county jail considering the repeat offenders that come and go.
Jan. 8 3:20 p.m.
Lock them up with the big boys and girls they will end up there someday anyways.
Jan. 8 2:32 p.m.
Natural addition to the prison "cottage industry" we have.
Jan. 8 2:25 p.m.
Can't we have something that brings in anything but criminals? Please get real jobs here. Funny I never hear anything like let's lower the taxes so a company like GM or another big nice paying job that drug tests. Something nice where people are finding ways to keep their selves out of trouble and doing drugs. Welfare seems to be the only thing St. Lawrence County is good for. So sad.
Jan. 8 1:57 p.m.
Since the old jail is less than one block from my house, I wonder two things in particular. How will having this facility affect the safety and security of this very residential neighborhood? (I can only imagine the amount of bright lights around the facility) And will the facility's proximity to my house affect my property values? I would like answers to these questions before this plan proceeds.
Jan. 8 1:45 p.m.
Yes, I would, since the law is going to happen regardless of what we want. It would make sense to house such kids near their homes and parents, guardians and friends so they aren't so totally isolated from reality and the streets. But keep the damnable tablets and easy-communications for planning equipment the hell away from them! Go boot-camp on them and teach them what they need to know. Any military person has been through boot-camp and it's no big deal, plus it can rapidly separate the better inmates from the chaff, who might need to be separated out. And treat them like they're in jail; even prisons don't do that anymore. It's a scientifically proven fact that, on average, a person isn't fully grown in most ways until they are 25 years old. Their attitudes and feelings, life's strategies, respect, and many other things aren't instilled in them until around the age 25. That's why, for instance, you can't rent a car until you're 25 or older; it's the official adulthood age.
Jan. 8 1:42 p.m.
Parents are not doing anything to stop it, so they might just as well go to jail.
Jan. 8 12:24 p.m.
Jan. 8 12:05 p.m.
Lock the delinquents up and teach them some work ethic and respect.
Jan. 8 11:53 a.m.
They want to commit crimes and have no respect for the law, property, or fellow man/woman then send them to jail with the rest of the law breakers.
Jan. 8 11:24 a.m.
If it brings jobs and money to NNY, then "yes." I disagree with the notion that 16- and 17-year-olds shouldn't be treated as adults though -- if you can drive, then you should face the full brunt of the law when you break it.
Jan. 8 10:56 a.m.
This also brings the families who end up staying and go on the welfare rolls at SLC taxpayers' expense.
Jan. 8 10:31 a.m.
Sixteen-year-old youth should not be housed with adults for many reasons.
Jan. 8 10:24 a.m.
Yet another brilliant liberal initiative. Any 16-year-old who commits a major crime will laugh like crazy at you if you tell him it isn't his fault and he wasn't old enough to know what he was doing.
Jan. 8 9:52 a.m.
Have you forgot it takes money to do this. Stop spending our money for these fools. Lock them up and let them think what they did.
Jan. 8 8:47 a.m.
If not here, where? It will bring more jobs to the area. We do have the highest unemployment rate in the State, I believe.
Jan. 8 8:42 a.m.
Yes, with reservations. It is too bad that the old jail rather resembles a wing of the Tower of London, but I am sure it can be updated inside to meet current standards that are focused on rehabilitation. I would hope that appropriate staff (non-correctional) could be found as this type of staff is difficult to locate and retain now. It would certainly be a remarkable facility to have here to serve the upper counties.
Jan. 8 8:22 a.m.
It would keep our residents local and use the building we are already heating and maintaining.
Jan. 8 7:54 a.m.